This might seem like jumping the gun, but I figure earlier is better for getting in a request that could need planning for from the beginning.

I would like to control the _same_ knob (for example, pitch shift) in more than one of Husserl's channels at the same time using a hardware MIDI-CC controller (knobs). The only way I can do this, I believe, is to run more than one instance of Reaktor (with the Husserl ensemble), synced -- because it turns out (yes, I was surprised) that the same knob in one channel of Husserl is really (I mean REALLY!) the SAME knob as in all other channels. So MIDI learn for that knob will simultaneously MIDI learn (the same MIDI controller knob) for the other (same kind of) knobs in the other channels.

If possible, I'm hoping for an _independent_ MIDI learn for each of the same kind of knobs (another example, number of steps in a channel's sequence) in the different channels in the non-Reaktor version of Husserl.

Thanks for considering this,

Greg

Yes, it is part of Husserl's quality that it is able to exceed the number of maximum controls supported in Reaktor by unique polyphonic knob and button designs. As a result, there can be >2,000 knobs, lists, and buttons in the ensemble.

As the MIDI standard only supports 127 controllers, it is of course impossible to implement CC messages for each knob. So, implementing what you request is in fact impossible. However, because the controls are shared across the channels, it is possible for a sequence of events to select any channel. First, send a message to select the channel. Then send a message to control the knob. I do that with VST automation normally, which takes care of all the details fopr me. Of course, Rekator lets you map any control to MIDI controller messages in Reaktor too.

Administrator wrote:
First, send a message to select the channel.

Send what kind of message, where, and how? I am trying to control the same Husserl knob in different channels with an external hardware MIDI controller, in real time, by moving the controller's knob(s) by hand.

As you can see (my new forum portrait fits exactly!) --

I am clueless!

Greg

I thought about this some more, and I did have an idea. It is difficult to add the channel setting with the 'MIDI learn' function because the control is buried in the structure. Would it be helpful to add a configuration control to set the controller number for the sequencer channel? Then the MIDI learn function would work with other knobs.

Additional logic could theoretically be added to enable MIDI learn to be selected by channel, but again Reaktor limits are reached. Reaktor only supports 1000 internal connnections. I will think about whether there is a way around this problem some more, but if a controller to select the current channel is acceptable, it would help keep the ensemble size low.

Ernest Meyer wrote:
I thought about this some more, and I did have an idea. It is difficult to add the channel setting with the 'MIDI learn' function because the control is buried in the structure. Would it be helpful to add a configuration control to set the controller number for the sequencer channel?

I think that is all I really need. I want to MIDI-control only a few sequencer knobs via a hardware controller (but among these, the "same" knob -- i.e., transpose -- in different sequencer channels simultaneously).

I'd be happy to try whatever you come up with,

Greg

Well at the moment, all other Husserl customers are content with the shared distribution. If another customer wants the same feature, I'll add it to the shared distribution.

If you want to hire me for some custom work, my rates are below minimum wage, and the same for a Husserl purchase: $79.99 on a per diem basis.

Hi Ernest,

I can live with my workaround (multiple instances) for now. I would welcome support from others for a configuration fix, but I suspect that no others are pushing the limits of Husserl's capabilities very hard.

By the way, does the latest downloadable version of Sapphire incorporate your fix for the bug I found a while back, that I patched in my version according to your instructions?

Best,

Greg

No one else is using that feature, so I have been waiting for another bugfix to upload a patch. But there have been no other bugs.

Administrator wrote:
No one else is using that feature, so I have been waiting for another bugfix to upload a patch. But there have been no other bugs.

Are you sure? Maybe some are using the feature and don't realize it doesn't work correctly. Remember, both you and I thought for a while that there wasn't a bug, but we were wrong.

Best,

Greg

The applicable criterion is, if a person has a problem and doesn't ask for help, then it is not worth wasting every one's else's time to download a new version of the ensemble for a change that doesn't matter. At the moment, the only outstanding request from other subscribers is for some tutorials.